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The annual January NSCA conference is right around the corner.  How do members feel about the value the NSCA brings to strength and conditioning coaches?  Worth the price of becoming and remaining a member?

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See the "Degree Programs" discussion.  No answers from President Fleck and the NSCA BOD.  They don't care about strength and conditioning coaches!

Although I am a young coach, I feel our Certification (talking only CSCS) has become saturated with personal trainers, PTs, ATs etc and has greatly diminished in value. While the NSCA allows strength coaches to designate themselves separately with the RSCC (Registered Strength and Conditioning Coach), you still have to pay extra for that on top of your CSCS fees. I thoroughly enjoy what the conferences offer in terms of education and networking but outside of that I see very little value in staying a member since Universities only require that you have and maintain a current certification and not require you to also be a member of the NSCA (I hope I just didn't give them a really poor idea...)

Back when I first became CSCS (first chance I had to take it way back in 89 - was CSCS even before the NSCA Founder) there weren't many CSCS people.  Now, with all the CSCS people, it really means nothing.  The test never has had a practical component.  I have seen people who are CSCS who look like they never workout (fat slobs) and probably couldn't teach a squat etc.  It's not a "credential of distinction" as NSCA marketers claim.  There's nothing "distinctive" about it.  It's definitely oversaturated. It's a "minimal competency test." They should have an "advanced exam for training athletes" that has a practical component like they do in the UK.  And you shouldn't have to take other exams to be able to take the advanced exam.  Anybody should be able to take the advanced exam.  Make it a tough and have an advanced exam.

The problem with having a tough advanced exam for training athletes is it wouldn't generate revenue for the NSCA.  Think about this - a tough exam that only a few could pass - woouldn't get much $ from CEUs, people taking or preparing for the exam etc.  It's all about marketing, sales, and $ for the NSCA.  Truth is they really don't care about sports, athletes, or strength & conditioning coaches. 

Do you feel that a college degree program specific to the strength and conditioning profession would help to ensure that truly qualified individuals get the quality jobs at the high school, college and/or professional levels?  

Good question.  ADs and the people that hire would have to be educated about this - it could take a while to become effective.  The degree program should have academic and practical aspects like they are doing at ETSU where sports science students work as strength & conditioning coaches with teams in the athletic department.  Overall, I think a college degree program (if it is done right) would be a good idea. To my knowledge, ETSU is the ONLY university in the US doing this at present (actually integrated with the athletic department).

The JSCR study being shown here on SPN right now on Body Composition and Bone Density in NFL players has the word "their" spelled wrong in the 2nd to last paragraph in the discussion.  I sent a message to Dr. Kraemer et al. about who proofreads these "peer- reviewed" articles?  Somebody sure missed on this one. 

Just saw a CNN article on athletes who couldn't read above the grade school level that Vern retweeted.  Kind of reminded me of Boyd hiring an ex NFL and Nebraska football player who had no education at all in the exercise or sport sciences and had used steroids when he played (flunked drug test and also admitted using) as "Coordinator of Performance Education" at Nebraska instead of highly educated people with masters degrees who were also CSCS.  This happened in the mid-late 90's and Boyd was even on the "task force" for the NSCA's first "Professional Standards & Guidelines" document while this individual was working for him as "Coordinator of Performance Education."  The NSCA has covered this up for years.  Note how nobody from the NSCA will respond to the "Degree Programs" discussion or come on this discussion in spite of being invited to come on here.  President Fleck and the BOD are too scared to come on here.  Cover it all up!  That's what the NSCA has done for years!  They do not care about strength and conditioning coaches or the future of the field!

Keep Dr. Andy Fry and his family in your thoughts and prayers.  Just heard yesterday from Andy that their house burned down.  It was Dr. Fry who told me when he was NSCA VP to send him a formal letter of complaint so he could conduct an investigation and that I would receive a copy of the results from the NSCA National Office.  It's all been covered up for years by the NSCA!  I certainly hope there is no connection as I know Fry received a lot of pressure to keep this quiet (about Boyd & Danny, steroids, NSCA Professional Standards & Guidelines document, etc).

So is the CSCS worth getting since the organization that promotes it doesn't support college strength coaches? Just curious based on some of the responses.

Just my opinion but I agree with Coach Guzzo.  You may want to get the CSCS just because many employers require it or another cert but why belong to the NSCA?  Other places have fine conferences.  I recently saw one posted here on SPN at Michigan St that has not only the Spartan staff but also the top person for football sports performance at Ohio St. And, as I've mentioned on other discussions, the Center of Excellence Coaches College which I attended last month (see was excellent.  You don't have to belong to the NSCA to get information.  If President Fleck and the NSCA BOD would ever come on here and confront issues maybe we could get somewhere but they are too scared to do this.  They are "in hiding."  You can't even ask questions and get an answer.

John thanks I'm definitely gonna proceed with getting my CSCS

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