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It is my experience that in the field of strength and conditioning, results are producing with very different approaches and I think that your comment underline that (I expect that you see the general approach work too).
To try and clarify my position somewhat, I don't always choose exercises that has spatial and temporal characteristics similar to the sport event. I do, through the use of basic biomechanical knowledge, make sure that every exercise I suggest for the athlete is specific to the athletes current physical status and their goal.
I have seen this approach work in athletes from so far 20 different sports, in most cases on the international level.
"I find the this principle of specificity is one of the most POWERFUL principles in program design."
We find the principle of specificity to be one of the most abused, misunderstood and bastardized concepts in program design...and Karsten your comments solidify that.
we are General Physical Preparedness coaches...the only true specific activity is an athlete's respective sport itself.
i know the training is old, but i like a lot of the things werner gunthor did in training. you can find it on youtube.
sorry for the semi off topic conversation Joe...since you train throwers, what're your thoughts??
Hi Adam - In my opinion it is about specificity. Without trying to be a shot put specialist, the force is derived primarily from one leg at a time and is expressed through one arm. IT is well known that muscles fire specifically to the movements in which they are used (I orignally learned this from the book "Strength and Power in Sport", blackwell science). Your question implies that a standing cable push is not high load, high velocity or high power - the movement can be all of those things if the weightstack is big enough (Just to make sure that we talk about the same exercise check the link)http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuCWpWkBC_I ..other variations of the st low cable push can be way more explosive than I am showing there. For example, you can initiate the push with a stomping type of movement similar to that of a power jerk. How heavy can you go? According to my experience about a 3RM, which for many athletes I have trained is around 170-190 pound through one arm (none of these athletes are big).
Still based on the principle of specificity, it would be my opinion that there is transfer from forexample a power jerk to a shot put, but it is also my opinion that a standing low cable push would transfer more.
I hope that answered your question :-)
The energy in the training room is great and many of the athletes are showing great levels of strength and power! Joe, I know that you have not asked my opinion, but here it is anyway :-)
I find that there are way to many bilateral exercises in this program, considering that it is a track and field. Most track and field is unilateral AND most/all track and field activities includes rotations, which was hardly included in this program. I used to think that you can't go heavy on unilateral exercises - UNTIL I STARTED having my athletes do it! Walking lunges dragging a sled, Single LEg squats, Step Ups, Standing Low Cable Push (should be #1 exercise for shot putters). Emg studies show that muscles fire EXTREMELY specific to how they are used (principle of functional differentiation) and I find the this principle of specificity is one of the most POWERFUL principles in program design.
Karsten Jensen, Msc Exercise Phys, Strength Coach, Author of The Flexible Periodization Method,
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