Box Squat Instruction with Louie Simmons

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  • Haha. I wondered how long this video would be up before the debates started. Good stuff.

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  • not a big fan of the negative shin angle either. gives a sense of overstriding. try changing direction fluidly with a base that wide. id be curious to see a shortstop fielding ground balls starting with a base that wide. just my opinion.

    i understand his idea of it being a hamstring curl. i think of hamstring curls as a pull. most field/court athletes dont have the luxury of of pulling with their legs. we have to push to get anywhere. also not a big fan of the relaxed lumbar at the bottom of the box squat.

  • I appreciate the concepts presented by WSB.  However, that gym is designed to promote one thing - get stronger for the sake of getting stronger.  Also, WSB was highlighted in a documentary profiling steroid use in America.  I have no use for individuals who promote the use of anabolic steroids. 

  • I would think an offensive lineman when blocking and maintaining a "wide base" would have direct carryover to that type of stance when squatting

  • Hi Guys, Very Interesting points and opinions.

    The below articles discuss how effective correct Box-Squatting is and how it DOES translate to sport. Also when providing an opinion on a certain topic it should never be about what happened to you as an individual. Why? As what works for you might not work for someone else because of the of individualization. I base my squat information on my own experience plus the 19 athletes that i have trained to squat over 1000 pounds and 6 over 1100, 1 1200lb squatter and 1 1205 squatter, i havent mentioned the countless 80lbs and 900lbs squatters that i have trained. I have also used box squatting with 2 gold medal sprinters and with any UFC athletes who trains here one of which was a Heavy Weight World Champion. All these athletes have had huge carryover from the box squat. Some of the Football players statistics that i have trained are the following
    -Defensive end at 292lbs run a 5.1 40 yard,
    -300lb linebacker who ran a 4.9 40 yard 
    237lb run a 4.42 40 yard who also had a 44'' vertical 
    All of which is documented and all of whom are Box Squatters. I have also an individual who can jump a 63" inch box jump of which we are confident can be broke this summer.
    Anybody can provide an argument theoretically. But i live in a world of facts and results .That is what i base my information on. In conclusion from my experience it does transfer to sport, ALLOT.

    The reason why Box Squats are the best, safest and most efficient way to squat is explained in great detail within the below articles, please read
    Article 1
    Article 2
    Article 3
    I welcome your response

  • Tell me what you do with your feet that wide and your toes pointing out on the athletic field? Tighter hamstrings and abductors from this form of partial squat does nothing to promote movement. I was a power lifter in my youth and totalled 1850 without suits  (knee wraps and belt) and even though I got strong from the movements, I lacked flexibility which gave me hamstring issues my freshman and soph year year playing football at East Carolina. I started Olympic lifting and I made huge improvements in the sprins and vert jump along with a 24 pound weight gain, which open some professional opportunites for me as a player.  Tell me what you are talking about when you say focusing on sport specificity can be just as bad??? Do you understand the Olympic lifts and there variations?? BTW that is not a power move. That is a partial movement that is related to a strength movement. There is nothing balistic about that video!

  • we learned how to box squat from the man who started this lift to improve back squatting. George Frenn was a Olympic hammer thrower and had the world record in the 56 lb weight toss. He also had the world record in the back squat at the 242 class with 853 lbs.

    The box performed here with the wide stance with the toes pointed out has ZERO CARRY OVER TO ANY ATHLETIC movement.  If you are trying to devolep leg power for functional athletic work , box squats should only be done a couple of times. After football season and maybe after spring ball for 4 weeks or so to condition the legs. I did 825 for 10 reps when I was a football player and I have to tell that they gave me damn good body strength gains (I did them with a narrow stance). But there is a big negative to this movement if you do them all the time. You will loose flexibility, over train the back and your hamstring to quad strength ratio is way off balance. Box squats have there place in strength training, but they don't even come close to the effectiveness that high bar, front squats and the full Olympic lifts have for functional strength and power needed to jump, sprint and change directions on the court or athletic field. If i was a young athlete wanting to improve my strength for sports, I would never do this movement like he shows it here. At least bring your feet closer together where you sprint and jump. Make it as sports specific as possible.

    Tim Swords

    USAW International coach

  • Great stuff!

  • Louie is awesome; glad to see these videos on the SPN.

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